{"id":341585,"date":"2026-07-20T18:06:16","date_gmt":"2026-07-20T16:06:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/?p=341585"},"modified":"2026-07-21T15:13:20","modified_gmt":"2026-07-21T13:13:20","slug":"interview-dhongtsang-shabdrung-rinpoche","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/en\/interview-dhongtsang-shabdrung-rinpoche\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoche"},"content":{"rendered":"

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During the month of May 2026, Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoche gave a four-day teaching on <\/em>The Treatise Entitled Revealing the Essence of the Tathagata at Dhagpo Kagyu Ling. Based in Siliguri, West Bengal, India, Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoche is among the eminent teachers who have been sharing the Dharma at Dhagpo for many years. In the continued commemoration of our fiftieth anniversary, we spent some time with him during his stay to find out more about his life and activity.<\/em><\/p>\n

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I always have in mind that <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I\u2019m teaching for those who are listening.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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\n<\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=”R\u00e9ponse” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” background_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” global_colors_info=”{}”]<\/p>\n

It was in 2007. I was on my way to my monastery in Yushu, Tibet. I was staying at a Karma Kagyu centre in Hong Kong applying for my visa when I received a phone call from Shamar Rinpoche<\/strong> asking me what I was doing. He told me that it is good that I go to my monastery and that I should come back soon. I asked if there was anything that I should be doing. He said that I have to go to Europe. Of course I said yes.<\/p>\n

I went to Tibet and upon my return, Shamar Rinpoche told me that I should replace him for his program as he couldn\u2019t come. This was my first time in Europe<\/strong>. That\u2019s how I came, first to Renchen Ulm, then to Dhagpo.<\/p>\n

[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=”What is your connection with the 16th Karmapa, Kunzig Shamarpa and Jigme Rinpoche?” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” background_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” global_colors_info=”{}”]<\/p>\n

What is your connection with the 16th Karmapa, Kunzig Shamarpa and Jigme Rinpoche?<\/span>
<\/em><\/p>\n

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For the 16th Karmapa, it\u2019s more linked with my previous life. <\/p>\n

I met Jigme Rinpoche for the first time in Kalimpong when I was staying at Shamar Rinpoche’s house, around 2005. Then I met him again in Dhagpo when Shamar Rinpoche sent me here for the first time. <\/p>\n

I met Shamar Rinpoche when I was very young, living in the Ngor monastery in Dehradun where I was mainly learning ritual aspects. My teachers used to bring me to see Shamar Rinpoche because in my previous life I was in the Athup tsang<\/strong>, in Jigme Rinpoche and Shamar Rinpoche\u2019s family. They thought that\u2019s where I belonged. Shamar Rinpoche gave me guidance and support<\/strong>. When one is recognized as a young tulku, there should be an enthronement ceremony that usually involves inviting Rinpoches and giving offerings to all the monks etc. This ceremony was held during a big empowerment given by Sakya Trichen. Shamar Rinpoche covered all the expenses.<\/p>\n

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You studied at Dzongsar Institute, where you graduated from in 2005. Did you have a particular field of specialization?<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

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\"\"At the time, it was quite difficult to get admission into the shedra<\/em> [1]<\/sup> as financially it was weak and there was a lack of accommodation. So there was kind of a lottery system to get in as there were not enough places<\/strong> for so many students applying.<\/p>\n

I was actually the youngest one studying there and was selected<\/strong> by Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche so I didn\u2019t have to go through this. There were no specializations. Every year we studied two different subjects. For example in first<\/strong> year, the Bodhicharyavatara<\/em> and Sutralankara<\/em>; in the second<\/strong> year it was Madhyamaka<\/em> based on the root text and commentaries, in the third<\/strong> year epistemology (tsema<\/em>), in the fourth<\/strong> year the Abhidharma<\/em>, in the fifth<\/strong> year the Prajnaparamita<\/em>, the sixth<\/strong> year the Vinaya<\/em>, and so on. So each year there was a different subject.<\/p>\n

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And then you went to University of Berkeley, in California. That must have been quite a contrast with your traditional education!<\/span>
<\/em><\/p>\n

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First, after finishing the shedra<\/em>, I told Shamar Rinpoche that I would like to stay in retrea<\/strong>t, so I stayed at his house in Kalimpong for a three-month retreat, mainly about Amitayus. After that, Rinpoche asked me to teach at the Kalimpong shedra<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Then I travelled a little in Asia, when Sakya Trichen and Luding Khen Rinpoche asked me to look after a monastery<\/strong> in Gangtok,<\/strong> Sikkim. Then, through the Khyentse Foundation, I became an exchange scholar at UC Berkeley, in the Asian studies program, for one semester. They arranged two guest lectures<\/strong> and other than that,<\/p>\n

I was able to join any class that interested me\u2014physics, neuroscience, language classes. I joined a translation conference<\/strong> on the Guyasamaja<\/em> tantra and also helped a few PhD students<\/strong> in Buddhist philosophy with their theses.<\/p>\n

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It\u2019s interesting how you often begin your teachings on very profound topics like Buddha nature by showing their relevance to our daily lives. Did your exposure to Western students lead you to introduce subjects in this way?<\/span>
<\/em><\/p>\n

[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=”R\u00e9ponse” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” background_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” global_colors_info=”{}”]You can say that. I always have in mind that I\u2019m teaching for those who are listening. So I always try to look out for how the teaching can be connected with them and help them in their daily life. This is my main concern. Interacting with different cultures has helped me with this.[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=”You’ve been coming to ” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” background_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” global_colors_info=”{}”]You’ve been coming to the West for a long time now. Do you see evolving needs or gaps in terms of how we learn, given that Dharma is still very young here?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=”R\u00e9ponse foto” _builder_version=”4.27.6″ _module_preset=”default” background_color=”RGBA(255,255,255,0)” global_colors_info=”{}”]<\/p>\n

\"\"I think it also depends on who is studying. If the audience is really trying to study Dharma more profoundly, I think it’s really helpful to understand the words. Because each word<\/strong> can have very different meanings.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why I\u2019ve been trying to go slower with Namshe Yeshe<\/em> last year, and now with The Treatise Entitled Revealing the Essence of the Tathagata<\/em> that we just started this year. Before this, I wasn\u2019t going word by word. Again, it depends on the audience<\/strong>, but most of the time, many people come to have some general idea, about Abhidharma<\/em> for example, so we go through the main meaning rather than the more profound word by word. They might get bored otherwise!<\/p>\n

Also, whether in the West or the East, when you study something, most of the time you think you know it. But in fact, you don\u2019t really know! It\u2019s the case in our shedra<\/em> also. For example there are different ways of explaining the five aggregates according to different schools and different texts.<\/p>\n

So there are so many things to learn.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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You are responsible for a monastery in Yushu, Tibet, established by your predecessor. Could you tell us about your activity there?<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

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\"\"I went to Tibet around 1995 with my late father.<\/p>\n

At the time, the circumstances were very poor. I stayed there for almost six months doing a retreat and giving mainly empowerments in different regions as I was very young.<\/p>\n

The main temple, which was built by my predecessor,<\/strong> the third Dhongtsang Shabrung Rinpoche, the elder brother of the 16th Karmapa, was destroyed in the late 1950s. There were just some remains left.<\/p>\n

We were planning to rebuild that temple. My late father travelled around different regions where I had relatives to get permission to take the wood from the forest to rebuild the monastery. We appointed one of my monks to take charge of it as I didn\u2019t have permission to stay more than six months and had to return to India for my studies. So the temple was rebuilt. Then we had plans for building a bigger shedra<\/em><\/strong> as at the time we only had a few rooms above another small temple nearby.<\/p>\n

For many years, it was just a plan. After the earthquake in Yushu in 2010, a few followers from the monastery made offerings to rebuild the main temple that had been damaged as well as the smaller one with the shedra<\/em>.<\/p>\n

I think the Chinese government also gave support for compensation. So with these funds from different sources, we were able to build the shedra<\/em>. It counts some 200 to 300 monks and is going well. There\u2019s also a big drupkang<\/em>, a retreat center with some 300 or 400 people that is mixed; there are lay practitioners, nuns and monks.<\/p>\n

Personally, I haven\u2019t been able to return there since 2010<\/strong> due to difficulties in getting the visa.<\/p>\n

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As you know Dhagpo celebrated its fiftieth anniversary last year, and we are very fortunate that you have been coming here for many years now. What do you see as Dhagpo\u2019s value in preserving and spreading the Dharma in Europe?
<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

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It’s very rare to see a place trying to preserve the authenticity of the Dharma. Because in most places, they are trying to spread the Dharma, but not really a fundamental and authentic Dharma. It’s more based on people’s interest. But what I see in Dhagpo, with Jigme Rinpoche\u2019s guidance,<\/strong> is that it’s trying to preserve the real value and authenticity of the Dharma.<\/strong> I think this is the one thing that you see that is very rare nowadays.<\/p>\n

[1] Buddhist place of higher learning offering a full program of Buddhist philosophical studies.<\/p>\n

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During the month of May 2026, Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoche gave a four-day teaching on The Treatise Entitled Revealing the Essence of the Tathagata at Dhagpo Kagyu Ling. Based in Siliguri, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":341432,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"

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Au cours du mois de mai 2026, \u00e0 Dhagpo Kagyu Ling, Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoch\u00e9 a donn\u00e9 un enseignement de quatre jours sur Le Trait\u00e9 intitul\u00e9 R\u00e9v\u00e9ler l\u2019essence de Tathagata. Bas\u00e9 \u00e0 Siliguri (Bengale occidental, Inde), Dhongtsang Shabdrung Rinpoch\u00e9 fait partie des \u00e9minents enseignants qui transmettent le Dharma \u00e0 Dhagpo depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es. Dans la continuit\u00e9 de notre cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire, nous avons pass\u00e9 du temps avec lui pendant son s\u00e9jour afin d\u2019en savoir plus sur sa vie et son activit\u00e9.<\/em><\/p>

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Je garde toujours \u00e0 l\u2019esprit <\/em><\/span>que j\u2019enseigne <\/em><\/span><\/p>

pour ceux qui m\u2019\u00e9coutent.<\/em><\/span><\/p>

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Qu\u2019est-ce qui vous a amen\u00e9 \u00e0 Dhagpo Kagyu Ling pour la premi\u00e8re fois ?<\/span>
<\/em><\/p>

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C\u2019\u00e9tait en 2007. J\u2019\u00e9tais en route pour mon monast\u00e8re \u00e0 Yushu, au Tibet. Je s\u00e9journais dans un centre karma kagyu \u00e0 Hong Kong pour faire une demande de visa lorsque j\u2019ai re\u00e7u un appel t\u00e9l\u00e9phonique de Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9<\/strong> me demandant ce que je faisais. Il m\u2019a dit que c\u2019\u00e9tait une bonne chose que j\u2019aille \u00e0 mon monast\u00e8re et que je devrais revenir bient\u00f4t. Je lui ai demand\u00e9 s\u2019il y avait quelque chose en particulier que je devais faire. Il m\u2019a r\u00e9pondu que je devais me rendre en Europe. Bien s\u00fbr, j\u2019ai accept\u00e9.<\/p>

Je suis all\u00e9 au Tibet et, \u00e0 mon retour, Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019a dit que je devais le remplacer pour son programme, car il ne pouvait pas venir. C\u2019\u00e9tait ma premi\u00e8re fois en Europe<\/strong>. C\u2019est ainsi que je suis arriv\u00e9 d\u2019abord \u00e0 Renchen Ulm, puis \u00e0 Dhagpo.<\/p>

[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Quel est votre lien avec le XVIe Karmapa, Kunzik Shamarpa et Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p>

Quel est votre lien avec le XVIe<\/sup> Karmapa, Kunzik Shamarpa et Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 ?<\/span>
<\/em><\/p>

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En ce qui concerne le XVIe<\/sup> Karmapa, cela est davantage li\u00e9 \u00e0 ma vie ant\u00e9rieure.<\/p>

J\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9 Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 pour la premi\u00e8re fois \u00e0 Kalimpong, alors que je s\u00e9journais chez Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9, vers 2005. Puis je l\u2019ai revu \u00e0 Dhagpo lorsque Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019y a envoy\u00e9 pour la premi\u00e8re fois.<\/p>

J\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9 Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 quand j\u2019\u00e9tais tr\u00e8s jeune, alors que je vivais au monast\u00e8re de Ngor \u00e0 Dehradun, o\u00f9 j\u2019apprenais principalement les aspects rituels. Mes ma\u00eetres avaient l\u2019habitude de m\u2019emmener voir Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 car, dans ma vie ant\u00e9rieure, je faisais partie de la famille Athup<\/strong> - celle de de Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 et Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9. Ils pensaient que c\u2019\u00e9tait l\u00e0 que j\u2019avais ma place. Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019a guid\u00e9 et soutenu<\/strong>. Lorsqu\u2019on est reconnu comme un jeune tulku<\/em>, il doit y avoir une c\u00e9r\u00e9monie d\u2019intronisation qui implique g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement d\u2019inviter des rinpoch\u00e9s et de faire des offrandes \u00e0 tous les moines etc. Cette c\u00e9r\u00e9monie s\u2019est d\u00e9roul\u00e9e lors d\u2019une grande initiation donn\u00e9e par Sakya Trichen. Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 a pris en charge toutes les d\u00e9penses.<\/p>

[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous avez \u00e9tudi\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019Institut Dzongsar, o\u00f9 vous avez obtenu votre dipl\u00f4me en 2005. Aviez-vous un domaine de sp\u00e9cialisation particulier ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]Vous avez \u00e9tudi\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019Institut Dzongsar, o\u00f9 vous avez obtenu votre dipl\u00f4me en 2005. Aviez-vous un domaine de sp\u00e9cialisation particulier ?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse foto\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p>

\"\"\u00c0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, il \u00e9tait assez difficile d\u2019\u00eatre admis au shedra<\/em> (1)<\/sup>, car celui-ci disposait de peu de moyens financiers et manquait de logements. Il existait donc une sorte de syst\u00e8me de tirage au sort pour y entrer, car il n\u2019y avait pas assez de places<\/strong> pour tous les \u00e9tudiants candidats.<\/p>

J\u2019\u00e9tais en fait le plus jeune \u00e0 y \u00e9tudier et j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 s\u00e9lectionn\u00e9<\/strong> par Dzongsar Jamyang Khyents\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9, ce qui m\u2019a \u00e9vit\u00e9 de passer par l\u00e0. Il n\u2019y avait pas de sp\u00e9cialisations. Chaque ann\u00e9e, nous \u00e9tudiions deux mati\u00e8res<\/strong> diff\u00e9rentes : par exemple, en premi\u00e8re <\/strong>ann\u00e9e, le Bodhicharyavatara<\/em> et le Sutralankara<\/em>, en deuxi\u00e8me<\/strong> ann\u00e9e, le Madhyamaka \u00e0 partir du texte de base et des commentaires, en troisi\u00e8me<\/strong> ann\u00e9e, l\u2019\u00e9pist\u00e9mologie (tsema<\/em>), en quatri\u00e8me<\/strong> ann\u00e9e, l\u2019Abhidharma<\/em>, en cinqui\u00e8me<\/strong> ann\u00e9e, la Prajnaparamita<\/em>, en sixi\u00e8me<\/strong> ann\u00e9e, le Vinaya<\/em>, et ainsi de suite. Chaque ann\u00e9e, il y avait donc une mati\u00e8re diff\u00e9rente.<\/p>

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Et ensuite, vous \u00eates all\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019universit\u00e9 de Berkeley, en Californie. Cela a d\u00fb repr\u00e9senter un sacr\u00e9 contraste avec votre \u00e9ducation traditionnelle !<\/span>
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Tout d\u2019abord, apr\u00e8s avoir termin\u00e9 le shedra<\/em>, j\u2019ai dit \u00e0 Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 que je souhaitais rester en retraite<\/strong> ; je suis donc rest\u00e9 chez lui \u00e0 Kalimpong pour une retraite de trois mois, principalement consacr\u00e9e \u00e0 Amitayus. Apr\u00e8s cela, Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019a demand\u00e9 d\u2019enseigner au shedra<\/em> de Kalimpong, puis j\u2019ai un peu voyag\u00e9 en Asie.<\/p>

C\u2019est alors que Sakya Trichen et Luding Khen Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019ont demand\u00e9 de m\u2019occuper d\u2019un monast\u00e8re \u00e0 Gangtok<\/strong>, au Sikkim. Puis, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 la fondation Khyents\u00e9, j\u2019ai pu b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier d\u2019un \u00e9change \u00e9tudiant \u00e0 l\u2019universit\u00e9 de Berkeley pendant un semestre, dans le cadre du programme d\u2019\u00e9tudes asiatiques. Deux conf\u00e9rences y ont \u00e9t\u00e9 organis\u00e9es, et, en dehors de cela, j\u2019ai pu suivre tous les cours qui m\u2019int\u00e9ressaient : physique, neurosciences, cours de langues.<\/p>

J\u2019ai particip\u00e9 \u00e0 un colloque de traduction<\/strong> sur le tantra Guyasamaja<\/em> et j\u2019ai \u00e9galement aid\u00e9 quelques doctorants<\/strong> en philosophie bouddhique \u00e0 r\u00e9diger leur th\u00e8se.<\/p>

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Il est int\u00e9ressant de constater que vous commencez souvent vos enseignements sur des sujets tr\u00e8s profonds, comme la nature de bouddha, en montrant leur pertinence dans notre vie quotidienne. Est-ce votre exp\u00e9rience aupr\u00e8s d\u2019\u00e9tudiants occidentaux qui vous a amen\u00e9 \u00e0 aborder les sujets de cette mani\u00e8re ?<\/span>
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On peut le dire comme \u00e7a. Je garde toujours \u00e0 l\u2019esprit que j\u2019enseigne pour ceux qui m\u2019\u00e9coutent<\/strong>. J\u2019essaie donc toujours de chercher comment l\u2019enseignement peut trouver un lien avec eux et les aider dans leur vie quotidienne. C\u2019est ma principale pr\u00e9occupation. Le fait d\u2019interagir avec diff\u00e9rentes cultures m\u2019a aid\u00e9 dans cette d\u00e9marche.<\/p>

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Cela fait maintenant longtemps que vous venez en Occident. Constatez-vous une \u00e9volution des besoins ou des lacunes dans notre fa\u00e7on d\u2019apprendre, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 que le Dharma est encore tr\u00e8s jeune ici ?<\/span><\/em><\/p>

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\"\"Je pense que cela d\u00e9pend aussi de ceux qui \u00e9tudient. Si l\u2019auditoire cherche vraiment \u00e0 \u00e9tudier le Dharma de mani\u00e8re plus approfondie, je pense qu\u2019il est tr\u00e8s utile de comprendre les mots. Car chaque mot<\/strong> peut avoir des significations tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rentes.<\/p>

C\u2019est pourquoi j\u2019ai essay\u00e9 d\u2019aller plus lentement avec le Namsh\u00e9 Yesh\u00e9<\/em> l\u2019ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re, et maintenant avec le Trait\u00e9 intitul\u00e9 R\u00e9v\u00e9ler l\u2019essence de Tathagata<\/em> que nous venons de commencer cette ann\u00e9e. Avant cela, je n\u2019allais pas mot \u00e0 mot. Encore une fois, cela d\u00e9pend de l\u2019auditoire<\/strong>, mais la plupart du temps, beaucoup de gens viennent pour se faire une id\u00e9e g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, sur l\u2019Abhidharma<\/em> par exemple, alors nous abordons le sens principal plut\u00f4t que de nous attarder mot \u00e0 mot sur les aspects les plus profonds. Sinon, ils risqueraient de s\u2019ennuyer !<\/p>

De plus, que ce soit en Occident ou en Orient, quand on \u00e9tudie quelque chose, la plupart du temps on croit le savoir. Mais en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, on ne le sait pas vraiment ! C\u2019est \u00e9galement le cas dans notre shedra.<\/em> Par exemple, il existe diff\u00e9rentes fa\u00e7ons d\u2019expliquer les cinq agr\u00e9gats selon les \u00e9coles et les textes. Il y a donc tant de choses \u00e0 apprendre !<\/strong><\/p>

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Vous \u00eates responsable d\u2019un monast\u00e8re fond\u00e9 par votre pr\u00e9d\u00e9cesseur \u00e0 Yushu, au Tibet. Pourriez-vous nous parler de votre activit\u00e9 l\u00e0-bas ?<\/span><\/em><\/p>

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\"\"Je me suis rendu au Tibet vers 1995 avec mon p\u00e8re.<\/p>

\u00c0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, les conditions de vie \u00e9taient tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9caires. J\u2019y suis rest\u00e9 pr\u00e8s de six mois \u00e0 faire une retraite et \u00e0 donner principalement des initiations dans diff\u00e9rentes r\u00e9gions, car j\u2019\u00e9tais tr\u00e8s jeune.<\/p>

Le temple principal, qui avait \u00e9t\u00e9 construit par mon pr\u00e9d\u00e9cesseur<\/strong>, le troisi\u00e8me Dhongtsang Shabrung Rinpoch\u00e9, fr\u00e8re a\u00een\u00e9 du XVIe<\/sup> Karmapa, avait \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9truit \u00e0 la fin des ann\u00e9es 1950. Il n\u2019en restait que quelques vestiges.<\/p>

Nous avions l\u2019intention de reconstruire ce temple. Mon p\u00e8re a parcouru diff\u00e9rentes r\u00e9gions o\u00f9 j\u2019avais de la famille afin d\u2019obtenir l\u2019autorisation de pr\u00e9lever du bois dans la for\u00eat pour reconstruire le monast\u00e8re. Nous avons charg\u00e9 l\u2019un de mes moines de superviser les travaux, car je n\u2019avais pas l\u2019autorisation de rester plus de six mois et je devais retourner en Inde pour poursuivre mes \u00e9tudes. Le temple a donc \u00e9t\u00e9 reconstruit. Nous avions ensuite l\u2019intention de construire un shedra<\/em><\/strong> plus grand, car \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, nous ne disposions que de quelques pi\u00e8ces au-dessus d\u2019un autre petit temple situ\u00e9 \u00e0 proximit\u00e9.<\/p>

Pendant de nombreuses ann\u00e9es, cela n\u2019est rest\u00e9 qu\u2019un projet. Apr\u00e8s le tremblement de terre de Yushu en 2010, quelques fid\u00e8les du monast\u00e8re ont fait des offrandes pour reconstruire le temple principal qui avait \u00e9t\u00e9 endommag\u00e9, ainsi que le plus petit qui abritait le shedra<\/em>.<\/p>

Je pense que le gouvernement chinois a \u00e9galement apport\u00e9 son soutien sous forme d\u2019indemnisation. Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 ces fonds provenant de diff\u00e9rentes sources, nous avons donc pu construire le shedra<\/em>. Il compte entre deux-cents et trois-cents moines et fonctionne bien. Il y a \u00e9galement un grand drupkang<\/em>, un centre de retraite pouvant accueillir environ trois-cents \u00e0 quatre-cents personnes \u2013 ce sont \u00e0 la fois des pratiquants la\u00efcs, des nonnes et des moines.<\/p>

Personnellement, je n\u2019ai pas pu y retourner depuis 2010<\/strong> en raison de difficult\u00e9s pour obtenir un visa.<\/p>

[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Comme vous le savez, Dhagpo\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]Comme vous le savez, Dhagpo a f\u00eat\u00e9 son cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire l\u2019ann\u00e9e derni\u00e8re et nous avons beaucoup de chance que vous veniez ici depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es d\u00e9j\u00e0. Quelle est, selon vous, la valeur de Dhagpo pour la pr\u00e9servation et la diffusion du Dharma en Europe ?
<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]Il est tr\u00e8s rare de voir un lieu qui s\u2019efforce de pr\u00e9server l\u2019authenticit\u00e9 du Dharma. En effet, dans la plupart des endroits, on cherche \u00e0 diffuser le Dharma, mais pas vraiment un Dharma fondamental et authentique. Cela repose davantage sur les int\u00e9r\u00eats des gens. Mais ce que je constate \u00e0 Dhagpo, sous la direction de Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9<\/strong>, c\u2019est qu\u2019on s\u2019efforce de pr\u00e9server la v\u00e9ritable valeur et l\u2019authenticit\u00e9 du Dharma<\/strong>. Je pense que c\u2019est la principale chose que l\u2019on constate et qui est tr\u00e8s rare de nos jours.<\/p>

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