{"id":343834,"date":"2026-08-19T15:28:26","date_gmt":"2026-08-19T13:28:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/?p=343834"},"modified":"2026-08-19T17:29:21","modified_gmt":"2026-08-19T15:29:21","slug":"lama-jampa-thaye-teaching-with-intelligent-fidelity-tradition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/en\/lama-jampa-thaye-teaching-with-intelligent-fidelity-tradition\/","title":{"rendered":"Lama Jampa Thaye: \u201cTeaching with an Intelligent Fidelity to Tradition\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||10px|||&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Intro&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>In July 2026, British-born Lama Jampa Thaye spent a week at Dhagpo Kagyu Ling to pursue his teaching on the Seven Points of Mind Training (<em>lojong<\/em>), based on his master Karma Thinley Rinpoche\u2019s commentary[1], and on Sakya Pandita\u2019s three disciplines (<em>dom sum<\/em>). He is among the eminent teachers who have been sharing the Dharma at Dhagpo for many years. In continuity of our fiftieth anniversary, we spent some time with him during his stay to find out more about his unique spiritual journey and his views on anchoring an authentic Dharma in the West.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_2,1_2&#8243; make_equal=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_01.jpg&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_testimonial _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; author_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; height=&#8221;100%&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||||false|false&#8221; author_text_align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; author_text_align_phone=&#8221;center&#8221; author_text_align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; custom_css_free_form=&#8221;selector {|| display: flex;|| align-items: center;|| justify-content: center;|| height: 100%;||}&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ab0023;\"><em>Shamar Rinpoche had an unerring vision<br \/>that goes with his radical honesty in every matter. <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_testimonial][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous avez d\u00e9couvert le bouddhisme \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge de vingt ans \u00e0 Manchester en 1973&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">You encountered Buddhism at age 20 in Manchester in 1973 and followed the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa on his first visit to the United Kingdom the year after. Could you share with us your recollections of this time?<\/span><br \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Everything was happening in a rush in those days, with the coming of the Dharma to Europe. It felt that no sooner had<strong> I taken refuge in 1973<\/strong>, with Karma Thinley Rinpoche that I met H.H Sakya Trizin the following year, and Kalu Rinpoche the same summer in Manchester. A couple of months after, H.H. Karmapa came to Europe.<\/p>\n<p>Looking back, it is astonishing that so much happened so quickly. But then, of course, because you&#8217;re young, and you don&#8217;t know anything to compare it with, it&#8217;s like, \u201cOh, maybe this is normal for a Tibetan Buddhist\u201d. <strong>It was a very happy, joyous,<\/strong> rolling time. When H.H. Karmapa came, everybody knew each other \u2013 there were at most one hundred of us.<\/p>\n<p>I went to Scotland when H.H. Karmapa gave the<strong> Black Crown Ceremony<\/strong> in Samye Ling. Then I met him in Chime Rinpoche\u2019s place in Essex. Of course <strong>Jigme Rinpoche was there too.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The principal thing Karmapa gave there was Dorje Pamo. Some of us had been doing ng\u00f6ndro for a year by the time Karmapa came. He only wanted to give it to those who finished <em>ng\u00f6ndro<\/em>. But literally, there wasn&#8217;t anybody! So the rule was re-extended to having finished Dorje Sempa. There were probably <strong>just around twenty<\/strong> of us there when Dorje Pamo was given. Karmapa gave a couple of other initiations and ordained about twelve people. Karma Thinley Rinpoche had told me the previous summer not to get ordained as it wasn\u2019t the way for me. There were also trips to London and Cambridge with Karmapa for him to do the Black Crown ceremony.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s such an enormous power in his presence that you were swept off your feet you could say. Karmapa was also like this extraordinary loving father. He was 53, I was around 21. And it was the same with the young lamas around him like Jigme Rinpoche. It just further amplified that feeling, because it was like he was travelling with his sons.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Et vous avez rencontr\u00e9 K\u00fcnzik Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 quelques ann\u00e9es plus tard ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">And you met K\u00fcnzig Shamar Rinpoche some years later?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Shamar Rinpoche wasn\u2019t with the Karmapa on his two first visits to England. <strong>I first met him in 1981<\/strong> at a centre in Germany (Kamalashila), where a conference was being held. I saw him manage difficult situations with such dignity and clarity.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_343798\" style=\"width: 337px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-343798\" class=\"wp-image-343798\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_05.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"246\"><p id=\"caption-attachment-343798\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">With K\u00fcnzik Shamarpa, KIBI, New Delhi, 2009<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I was able to spend a little time with him and that was <strong>really impressive to me.<\/strong> We met again after many years, in 2007, at the Karmapa International Buddhist Institute.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t until 2013, when Shamar Rinpoche came to England, that he asked me to go to America to teach Zhentong Madhyamaka. He passed away two weeks after he\u2019d been with us in Manchester and I thought that would fall into abeyance.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;But he&#8217;d actually rung them in American Bodhipath, immediately that day. So that&#8217;s how I ended up going to Bodhipath in America, and then through that, in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous avez souvent \u00e9voqu\u00e9 la continuit\u00e9 et l\u2019adaptation dans le bouddhisme \u2013 comment envisagez-vous cela aujourd\u2019hui ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">You\u2019ve often evoked continuity and adaptation in Buddhism \u2013 how do you envision this today?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponsse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Only the external appearances, to a certain extent, may vary. But the <b>inner Dharma<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, the Dharma taught in the Sutras and Tantras that our great masters of Kagyu, Sakya and Nyingma have preserved, <\/span><b>cannot change<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, because it&#8217;s like a medicine. The packaging of the medicine may be different, but for the medicine to work, it must remain powerful, as prescribed by the Buddha and preserved by the great masters. So in some ways, there&#8217;s very little adaptation. But on the other hand, we have to be able to speak intelligently about this, to people who know nothing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So there\u2019s a great deal of work in terms of establishing the rationality and the practicality of Dharma. It\u2019s going to take some time. <b>There can&#8217;t be shortcuts.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> But in terms of compromising to win audiences, it&#8217;s a dead loss. Because if we compromise the essential Dharma teachings, its radical demands on us, whether it&#8217;s in ethics or whatever it is, in philosophy, what are we selling? We&#8217;re selling bogus.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous craignez donc que le Dharma ne soit dilu\u00e9 ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">So you&#8217;re concerned about Dharma being diluted ?<\/span><br \/>\n<\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_343778\" style=\"width: 618px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-343778\" class=\"wp-image-343778\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_03.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"608\" height=\"457\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-343778\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">With K\u00fcnzik Shamarpa, Manchester, 2014<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Exactly. I even sometimes see lojong being appropriated by non-Buddhists, when, of course, the whole context of lojong is its Bodhisattva training. There are many such instances. And, of course, when you get to the selling of Vajrayana initiations on the Internet and so on, then that&#8217;s really quite disastrous.<\/p>\n<p>Going back to <strong>Shamar Rinpoche<\/strong>, he was extraordinarily orthodox, but as I once said, he&#8217;s radically orthodox. He <strong>could see<\/strong> through what were merely cultural accretions \u2013 some which are not not bad \u2013 but which could obscure the real Dharma. There&#8217;s so much of the real Dharma to teach that we can&#8217;t waste time on cultural accretions.<\/p>\n<p>So I think Shamar Rinpoche had an <strong>unerring vision<\/strong> that goes with his radical honesty in every matter. Shamar Rinpoche forces us to examine the way of understanding the teaching. If we have to then present it to others, we&#8217;ll do so with a great kind of fidelity to the tradition, but an intelligent fidelity. If we had to give it a brand, it would be \u201cintelligent tradition\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;\u00c0 la demande de l\u2019un de vos ma\u00eetres, Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9,&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Upon the request of one of your masters, Karma Thinley Rinpoche, you\u2019ve opened many centres around the world and seen people come and go. What do you see as some keys to a steady engagement in Dharma?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>On the coming and going, serious people sometimes have different orbits around the Dharma, like an orbit of a planet around the sun. Some people are very close to the lama and the teachings, others, maybe for family and work reasons, only see the lama occasionally and come to teachings from time to time. You may think they&#8217;ve stopped practising, but actually no, they&#8217;re just practising in their own home and their own space, in their own way. I think <strong>all healthy Dharma communities<\/strong> \u2013 meaning a cluster of people around a lama \u2013 <strong>are like that<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The great thing in Kagyu, Sakya and Nyingma is that we&#8217;re clusters around a particular lama, but we&#8217;re in other clusters too. So in the Karma Kagyu over the years, you develop a relationship, a samaya in fact, with quite a number of teachers.<\/p>\n<p>I think that <strong>makes it rich<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous avez \u00e9galement \u00e9voqu\u00e9 l\u2019importance d\u2019une communaut\u00e9 monastique.&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">You&#8217;ve also spoken about the importance of a monastic community. Does this require some rethinking or adaptations in the West ? How do you see that going ?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse &#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>The monastic Sangha is crucial for the Dharma, because according to tradition, it is <strong>one of the three supports<\/strong>. You can&#8217;t have a temple without the Buddha statues, the Dharma texts, and the monastic Sangha.<\/p>\n<p>For lay followers, only then are the three bases on which merit can be accumulated in place. A Dharma country is not a Dharma country without monastics. <strong>It\u2019s non-negotiable that there must be a Sangha<\/strong>. For us lay people, no matter how engaged we are in practice, and some having responsibilities as lamas and so on, we cannot think there can be a non-monastic Dharma. The Vinaya rules for novices and fully ordained monks and nuns, they&#8217;re what make the monastic life work.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_343802\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-343802\" class=\"wp-image-343802\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_04.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"610\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_04.jpg 610w, https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_04-480x361.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 610px, 100vw\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-343802\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">With H.H. the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa, KIBI, New Delhi, 2008.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>We can&#8217;t just duplicate the Tibetan way, which is itself proving difficult. H.H. Karmapa is thinking about this very much, with the Karmapa Education Centre, as is the 43rd Sakya Trizin who has also established an academy for young children, some of whom will become monks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What should we do as Westerners?<\/strong> I don&#8217;t know the answers, but I just know that monasticism is crucial. In our lay role, we support Karma Thinley Rinpoche\u2019s nuns in Nepal and of course I see the same with the monks in KIBI and H.H. Sakya Trizin\u2019s monks.<\/p>\n<p>The best minds need to be bearing on this, because turning monks and nuns into guarding a theme park for money, I don&#8217;t think that will work. It will corrupt them, because a certain space needs to be kept between lay people and monastics. Quite often in the West, where there&#8217;s been a couple of monks in a center surrounded by lay people, it&#8217;s deteriorated, because there&#8217;s not enough respect and distance for the monks.<\/p>\n<p>So we need big institutions with a good economic basis to create monasticism. I think monasticism is going to come more slowly in terms of development in the West, but we lay people, involved in Kagyu and Sakya and so on, must never forget that we&#8217;re working towards that. <strong>It&#8217;s a very complicated issue.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>And while there are still some of our real lamas who are monks, like Karma Thinlay Rinpoche who is close to 95 and Lama Jigme Rinpoche, this is another way to remind ourselves of the centrality of the monastic career. A lay Buddhism won&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Un autre aspect int\u00e9ressant de votre travail r\u00e9side dans vos activit\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9criture, de traduction et d\u2019\u00e9dition.&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Another interesting aspect of your work is the writing, translating and publishing you&#8217;ve done. What do you see as some of the priorities going forward in terms of translating texts?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not so engaged myself in it at the moment, but we have people who are. I think the first thing is to translate <strong>the texts on the syllabus,<\/strong> both Mahayana and Vajrayana, and the <strong>leading works of the great masters<\/strong> of these traditions. Quite a lot has been done.<\/p>\n<p>Translations, like the very original Tibetan or Sanskrit texts themselves, are just supports for teaching. They&#8217;re what<strong> you work with after the teaching<\/strong>. So just publishing for the sake of publishing, getting ever more exciting tantric books onto the publishing market, I don&#8217;t see that as good. In fact, I see it as quite negative for Dharma.<\/p>\n<p>I think the job of translators is rather a modest one, which is as a teaching support. Of course, we have to have nice-looking, durable books, and therefore I&#8217;m very delighted with the existence of publishers like Rabsel Publications who support the Dharma in a pure way without any compromise.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous venez \u00e0 Dhagpo depuis 2010 \u00e0 l\u2019invitation de lama Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9. Comment percevez-vous son \u00e9volution au fil des ann\u00e9es ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">You\u2019ve been coming to Dhagpo since 2010 upon an invitation from Lama Jigme Rinpoche. How do you see its development over the years?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-343786  alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/2026-07-25_LJT_FB@DKLmedia-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"493\" \/>The enriching of the curriculum to<strong> support people\u2019s practice<\/strong> has been given careful thought by H.H. Karmapa, Shamar Rinpoche and Jigme Rinpoche. Khenpo Ch\u00f6drak Rinpoche plays a very important role, and Trinlay Rinpoche and myself also have a role.<\/p>\n<p>I &#8216;m really happy about this because Dhagpo is the mothership of Karma Kagyu in the West. It is the seat of His Holiness the Karmapa. So it&#8217;s so important that the Dharma flourishes here. It will radiate out from here.<\/p>\n<p>Jigme Rinpoche is General Secretary to H.H. Karmapa so it gives him a kind of <strong>guardian role of the Karma Kagyu<\/strong>. I always insist when I go to other centres in Europe, and even in America, that everybody should look to Dhagpo because it is Karmapa\u2019s center.<\/p>\n<p>For authenticity, for training, this is the main source to draw upon. I see participating in that as a very great service to the tradition and to His Holiness and I\u2019m very happy about it.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Vous voyez donc le Dharma s\u2019ancrer davantage, avec un accent plus marqu\u00e9 sur la combinaison de l\u2019\u00e9tude et de la pratique ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">So you see the Dharma becoming more steady with stronger emphasis on combining study and practice?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]Everything is unfolding as it should. And certainly, in the minds of our masters, there&#8217;s no hurry. In H.H. Karmapa\u2019s mind, which is extraordinarily spacious, one can see that it is happening properly. The balance is pretty good. One can see it in people themselves, and in their way of relating to Dharma. The Dharma is beginning to feel natural, like it&#8217;s part of the rhythm of things. There may be ups and downs but it won&#8217;t disappear. But I think that steadiness is so important. In fact, it always seems like the crucial turn in a person&#8217;s life in relation to the Dharma when it&#8217;s steady. Before then, it might be exciting, and many powerful things happen. But when it&#8217;s steady, it\u2019s \u201cYes, of course I get up every morning and practice.\u201d  And one can see this steadiness during big events when everyone gathers around someone like Karmapa.[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Y a-t-il quelque chose que vous aimeriez ajouter ?&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Is there anything you&#8217;d like to add?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;R\u00e9ponse&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-343826  alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/2026-07-25_LJT_FB@DKLmedia-04.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"612\" height=\"408\">That Jigme Rinpoche remains for a long, long time is very important for Dhagpo and for Kagyu. It&#8217;s also for His Holiness of course, but he&#8217;s very, very important. Nobody should lose sight of that. And nobody should lose sight of the fact that he&#8217;s the authority. Everything should be referred to Rinpoche. We mustn&#8217;t let Rinpoche neglect his health. That&#8217;s very, very important.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Notes&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.6&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h5>[1] Karma Thinley Rinpoche. Dispelling the Darkness of Suffering. Rabsel Publications, La Remu\u00e9e, France, 2023.<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Books by Lama Jampa Thaye published by Rabsel Publications.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Diamond Sky. Preparing for Vajrayana.<\/em> 2023.<\/li>\n<li><em>A Garland of Gold. The Early Kagyu Masters in India and Tibet.<\/em> 2022.<\/li>\n<li><em>River of Memory. Dharma Chronicles.<\/em> 2021.<\/li>\n<li><em>Patterns in Emptiness. Understanding Dependent Origination in Buddhism.<\/em> 2019.<\/li>\n<li><em>Wisdom in Exile. Buddhism and Modern Times<\/em>. 2017.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In July 2026, British-born Lama Jampa Thaye spent a week at Dhagpo Kagyu Ling to pursue his teaching on the Seven Points of Mind Training (lojong), based on his master [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":343878,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=\"1\" _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" custom_padding=\"||10px|||\" locked=\"off\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_row _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_column type=\"4_4\" _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Intro\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" hover_enabled=\"0\" global_colors_info=\"{}\" sticky_enabled=\"0\"]<\/p><p>En juillet 2026, lama Jampa Thay\u00e9, n\u00e9 en Grande-Bretagne, a pass\u00e9 une semaine \u00e0 Dhagpo Kagyu Ling pour poursuivre son enseignement sur les sept points de l\u2019entra\u00eenement de l\u2019esprit (<em>lojong<\/em>), bas\u00e9 sur le commentaire de son ma\u00eetre Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9[1], et sur la <em>Diff\u00e9renciation d\u00e9taill\u00e9e des trois discipline<\/em>s de Sakya Pandita (<em>dom sum<\/em>). Il fait partie des \u00e9minents enseignants qui partagent le Dharma \u00e0 Dhagpo depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es. Dans la continuit\u00e9 du cinquanti\u00e8me anniversaire de Dhagpo, nous avons pass\u00e9 un moment avec lui pendant son s\u00e9jour afin d\u2019en savoir plus sur son parcours spirituel unique et sur sa vision de l\u2019ancrage d\u2019un Dharma authentique en Occident.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=\"1_2,1_2\" make_equal=\"on\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_column type=\"1_2\" _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_image src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_01.jpg\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\"1_2\" _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_testimonial _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" author_text_align=\"center\" text_orientation=\"center\" height=\"100%\" custom_margin=\"||||false|false\" custom_padding=\"||||false|false\" author_text_align_tablet=\"center\" author_text_align_phone=\"center\" author_text_align_last_edited=\"on|desktop\" custom_css_free_form=\"selector {|| display: flex;|| align-items: center;|| justify-content: center;|| height: 100%;||}\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ab0023;\"><em>Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 avait une vision infaillible, <br>qui allait de pair avec <br>son honn\u00eatet\u00e9 radicale en toute chose. <\/em><\/span><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_testimonial][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_column type=\"4_4\" _builder_version=\"4.21.0\" _module_preset=\"default\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous avez d\u00e9couvert le bouddhisme \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge de vingt ans \u00e0 Manchester en 1973\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" hover_enabled=\"0\" global_colors_info=\"{}\" sticky_enabled=\"0\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous avez d\u00e9couvert le bouddhisme \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge de vingt ans \u00e0 Manchester en 1973 et vous avez suivi le XVI<sup>e<\/sup> Gyalwa Karmapa lors de sa premi\u00e8re visite au Royaume-Uni l\u2019ann\u00e9e suivante. Pourriez-vous nous faire part de vos souvenirs de cette \u00e9poque ?<\/span><br><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>Tout allait tr\u00e8s vite \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque, avec l\u2019arriv\u00e9e du Dharma en Europe. J\u2019ai eu l\u2019impression qu\u2019\u00e0 peine avais-je <strong>pris refuge en 1973<\/strong> aupr\u00e8s de Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9 que je rencontrais Sa Saintet\u00e9 Sakya Trizin l\u2019ann\u00e9e suivante, puis Kalou Rinpoch\u00e9 le m\u00eame \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e0 Manchester. Quelques mois plus tard, Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa est venu en Europe.<\/p><p>Avec le recul, il est \u00e9tonnant que tant de choses se soient pass\u00e9es si vite. Mais bien s\u00fbr, quand on est jeune et qu\u2019on n\u2019a aucun point de comparaison, on se dit : \u00ab Oh ! c\u2019est peut-\u00eatre normal pour un bouddhiste tib\u00e9tain \u00bb. <strong>C\u2019\u00e9tait une p\u00e9riode tr\u00e8s heureuse<\/strong>, joyeuse et tr\u00e9pidante. Lorsque Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa est venu, tout le monde se connaissait \u2013 nous \u00e9tions tout au plus une centaine.<\/p><p>Je suis all\u00e9 en \u00c9cosse lorsque Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa a pr\u00e9sid\u00e9 la <strong>c\u00e9r\u00e9monie de la Coiffe noire<\/strong> \u00e0 Samy\u00e9 Ling. Puis je l\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9 chez Chim\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9, dans l\u2019Essex. Bien s\u00fbr, <strong>Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 \u00e9tait l\u00e0 aussi<\/strong>.<\/p><p>La principale initiation que le Karmapa a donn\u00e9e l\u00e0-bas \u00e9tait celle de Dorj\u00e9 Pamo. Certains d\u2019entre nous pratiquaient les <em>ng\u00f6ndros<\/em> depuis un an lorsque le Karmapa est arriv\u00e9. Il ne voulait accorder cette initiation qu\u2019\u00e0 ceux qui avaient termin\u00e9 les <em>ng\u00f6ndros<\/em>. Mais, litt\u00e9ralement, il n\u2019y avait personne ! La r\u00e8gle a donc \u00e9t\u00e9 assouplie pour n\u2019exiger que d\u2019avoir termin\u00e9 Dorj\u00e9 Sempa. Nous \u00e9tions probablement <strong>une vingtaine lorsque l\u2019initiation de Dorj\u00e9 Pamo a \u00e9t\u00e9 donn\u00e9e.<\/strong> Le Karmapa a donn\u00e9 quelques autres initiations et a ordonn\u00e9 une douzaine de personnes. Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9 m\u2019avait dit l\u2019\u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent de ne pas me faire ordonner, car ce n\u2019\u00e9tait pas la voie qui me convenait. Il y a \u00e9galement eu avec le Karmapa des voyages \u00e0 Londres et \u00e0 Cambridge o\u00f9 il a conf\u00e9r\u00e9 la c\u00e9r\u00e9monie de la Coiffe noire.<\/p><p><strong>Sa pr\u00e9sence d\u00e9gageait une telle puissance<\/strong> qu\u2019on pouvait dire qu\u2019on \u00e9tait litt\u00e9ralement subjugu\u00e9. Le Karmapa \u00e9tait aussi comme <strong>un p\u00e8re merveilleux et aimant.<\/strong> Il avait cinquante-trois ans, j\u2019en avais environ vingt-et-un. Et c\u2019\u00e9tait la m\u00eame chose avec les jeunes lamas qui l\u2019entouraient, comme Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9. Cela ne faisait que renforcer ce sentiment, car c\u2019\u00e9tait comme s\u2019il voyageait avec ses fils.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Et vous avez rencontr\u00e9 K\u00fcnzik Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 quelques ann\u00e9es plus tard ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Et vous avez rencontr\u00e9 K\u00fcnzik Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 quelques ann\u00e9es plus tard ?<\/span><br><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 n\u2019accompagnait pas le Karmapa lors de ses deux premi\u00e8res visites en Angleterre. <strong>Je l\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9 pour la premi\u00e8re fois en 1981<\/strong> en Allemagne au centre Kamalashila o\u00f9 se tenait une conf\u00e9rence. Je l\u2019ai vu g\u00e9rer des situations difficiles avec tant de dignit\u00e9 et de lucidit\u00e9.<\/p>[caption id=\"attachment_343798\" align=\"alignleft\" width=\"327\"]<img class=\"wp-image-343798\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_05.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"246\"> Avec K\u00fcnzik Shamarpa, KIBI, New Delhi, 2009[\/caption]<p>J\u2019ai pu passer un peu de temps avec lui et cela <strong>m\u2019a vraiment impressionn\u00e9.<\/strong> Nous nous sommes revus bien des ann\u00e9es plus tard, en 2007, \u00e0 l\u2019Institut bouddhiste international du Karmapa (KIBI).<\/p><p>Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019en 2013, lorsque Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 est venu en Angleterre, qu\u2019il m\u2019a demand\u00e9 d\u2019aller aux \u00c9tats-Unis pour enseigner le shentong madhyamaka. Il est d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 deux semaines apr\u00e8s son s\u00e9jour parmi nous \u00e0 Manchester, et j\u2019ai pens\u00e9 que ce projet serait mis en suspens.<\/p><p>Mais en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, il avait appel\u00e9 les responsables de Bodhi Path aux \u00c9tats-Unis le jour m\u00eame. C\u2019est ainsi que je me suis retrouv\u00e9 \u00e0 Bodhi Path aux \u00c9tats-Unis, puis, gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 cela, en Europe.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous avez souvent \u00e9voqu\u00e9 la continuit\u00e9 et l\u2019adaptation dans le bouddhisme \u2013 comment envisagez-vous cela aujourd\u2019hui ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous avez souvent \u00e9voqu\u00e9 la continuit\u00e9 et l\u2019adaptation dans le bouddhisme \u2013 comment envisagez-vous cela aujourd\u2019hui ?<\/span><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponsse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>Seules les apparences ext\u00e9rieures, dans une certaine mesure, peuvent varier. Mais <strong>le Dharma int\u00e9rieur<\/strong>, le Dharma enseign\u00e9 dans les soutras et les tantras, que nos grands ma\u00eetres des traditions kagyu, sakya et nyingma ont pr\u00e9serv\u00e9, <strong>cela ne peut pas changer,<\/strong> car c\u2019est comme un m\u00e9dicament. L\u2019emballage du m\u00e9dicament peut \u00eatre diff\u00e9rent, mais pour que celui-ci agisse, il doit conserver toute sa puissance, telle qu\u2019elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 prescrite par le Bouddha et pr\u00e9serv\u00e9e par les grands ma\u00eetres. Ainsi, d\u2019une certaine mani\u00e8re, il y a tr\u00e8s peu d\u2019adaptation. Mais d\u2019un autre c\u00f4t\u00e9, nous devons \u00eatre capables d\u2019en parler de mani\u00e8re intelligente \u00e0 des personnes qui n\u2019y connaissent rien.<\/p><p>Il y a donc beaucoup de travail \u00e0 accomplir pour \u00e9tablir la rationalit\u00e9 et la pertinence pratique du Dharma. Cela va prendre du temps. <strong>Il ne peut y avoir de raccourcis.<\/strong> Et en ce qui concerne les compromis visant \u00e0 gagner des auditoires, c\u2019est une cause perdue d\u2019avance. Car si nous transigeons sur les enseignements essentiels du Dharma, sur ses exigences radicales \u00e0 notre \u00e9gard, que ce soit en mati\u00e8re d\u2019\u00e9thique ou de quoi que ce soit d\u2019autre, en philosophie, que vendons-nous ? Nous vendons du faux.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous craignez donc que le Dharma ne soit dilu\u00e9 ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous craignez donc que le Dharma ne soit dilu\u00e9 ?<\/span><br><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p>[caption id=\"attachment_343778\" align=\"alignleft\" width=\"608\"]<img class=\"wp-image-343778\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_03.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"608\" height=\"457\"> Avec K\u00fcnzik Shamarpa, Manchester, 2014[\/caption]<p>Exactement. Je vois m\u00eame parfois des non-bouddhistes s\u2019approprier le <em>lojong<\/em>, alors que, bien s\u00fbr, tout le contexte du <em>lojong<\/em> r\u00e9side dans l\u2019entra\u00eenement du bodhisattva. Il existe de nombreux exemples de ce genre. Et, bien s\u00fbr, quand on en arrive \u00e0 la vente d\u2019initiations vajrayana sur Internet et ainsi de suite, c\u2019est vraiment catastrophique.<\/p><p>Pour en revenir \u00e0 <strong>Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9<\/strong>, il \u00e9tait extraordinairement orthodoxe, et comme je l\u2019ai dit un jour, il est radicalement orthodoxe. Il <strong>savait discerner<\/strong> ce qui n\u2019\u00e9tait que des ajouts culturels, qui, m\u00eame si certains ne sont pas mauvais en soi, peuvent occulter le v\u00e9ritable Dharma. Il y a tant \u00e0 enseigner du v\u00e9ritable Dharma que nous ne pouvons pas perdre de temps avec des ajouts culturels.<\/p><p>Je pense donc que Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 <strong>avait une vision infaillible<\/strong>, qui allait de pair avec son honn\u00eatet\u00e9 radicale en toute chose. Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 nous oblige \u00e0 examiner notre mani\u00e8re de comprendre l\u2019enseignement. Si nous devons ensuite le transmettre \u00e0 d\u2019autres, nous le ferons avec une grande fid\u00e9lit\u00e9 \u00e0 la tradition, mais une fid\u00e9lit\u00e9 intelligente. S\u2019il fallait lui donner une marque, ce serait \u00ab la tradition intelligente \u00bb.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"\u00c0 la demande de l\u2019un de vos ma\u00eetres, Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9,\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">\u00c0 la demande de l\u2019un de vos ma\u00eetres, Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9, vous avez ouvert de nombreux centres \u00e0 travers le monde et vu des gens aller et venir. Selon vous, quelles sont les cl\u00e9s d\u2019un engagement constant dans le Dharma ?<\/span><br><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>En ce qui concerne ces allers et retours, les personnes s\u00e9rieuses ont parfois des orbites diff\u00e9rentes autour du Dharma, \u00e0 l\u2019image de l\u2019orbite d\u2019une plan\u00e8te autour du soleil. Certaines personnes sont tr\u00e8s proches du lama et des enseignements ; d\u2019autres, peut-\u00eatre pour des raisons familiales ou professionnelles, ne voient le lama qu\u2019occasionnellement et assistent aux enseignements de temps \u00e0 autre. On pourrait penser qu\u2019elles ont cess\u00e9 de pratiquer, mais en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 non : elles pratiquent simplement chez elles, dans leur propre espace, \u00e0 leur mani\u00e8re. <strong>Je pense que toutes les communaut\u00e9s saines du Dharma<\/strong> \u2013 c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire un groupe de personnes rassembl\u00e9es autour d\u2019un lama \u2013 <strong>fonctionnent ainsi.<\/strong><\/p><p>Ce qui est formidable dans les traditions kagyu, sakya et nyingma, c\u2019est que nous formons des groupes autour d\u2019un lama particulier, mais que nous faisons \u00e9galement partie d\u2019autres groupes. Ainsi, au sein de la lign\u00e9e karma kagyu, au fil des ann\u00e9es, on d\u00e9veloppe une relation \u2013 un <em>samaya<\/em>, en fait \u2013 avec un nombre assez important de ma\u00eetres.<\/p><p>Je pense que cela<strong> enrichit la tradition<\/strong>.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous avez \u00e9galement \u00e9voqu\u00e9 l\u2019importance d\u2019une communaut\u00e9 monastique.\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous avez \u00e9galement \u00e9voqu\u00e9 l\u2019importance d\u2019une communaut\u00e9 monastique. Cela n\u00e9cessite-t-il une remise en question ou des adaptations en Occident ? Comment voyez-vous cela \u00e9voluer ?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse \" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>La sangha monastique est essentielle pour le Dharma, car selon la tradition, elle <strong>constitue l\u2019un des trois piliers<\/strong>. On ne peut pas avoir de temple sans les statues du Bouddha, les textes du Dharma et la sangha monastique.<\/p><p>Pour les pratiquants la\u00efcs, ce n\u2019est qu\u2019\u00e0 cette condition que les trois bases sur lesquelles le m\u00e9rite peut \u00eatre accumul\u00e9 sont en place. Un pays du Dharma n\u2019est pas un pays du Dharma sans moines et nonnes. <strong>L\u2019existence d\u2019une sangha est non n\u00e9gociable<\/strong>. Pour nous, la\u00efcs, quel que soit notre engagement dans la pratique, et m\u00eame si certains d\u2019entre nous ont des responsabilit\u00e9s en tant que lamas, etc., nous ne pouvons pas imaginer qu\u2019il puisse exister un Dharma non monastique.<\/p><p>Ce sont les r\u00e8gles du Vinaya pour les novices et les moines et nonnes pleinement ordonn\u00e9s qui permettent \u00e0 la vie monastique de fonctionner.<\/p>[caption id=\"attachment_343802\" align=\"alignright\" width=\"610\"]<img class=\"wp-image-343802\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Lama-Jampa-Thaye_Interview_04.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"610\" height=\"459\"> Avec S.S. le XVIIe Gyalwa Karmapa, KIBI, New Delhi, 2008.[\/caption]<p>Nous ne pouvons pas simplement reproduire le mod\u00e8le tib\u00e9tain, ce qui s\u2019av\u00e8re d\u2019ailleurs difficile en soi. Sa Saintet\u00e9 le Karmapa y r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit beaucoup, avec le Karmapa Center for Education, tout comme le XLIII<sup>e<\/sup> Sakya Trizin qui a \u00e9galement fond\u00e9 une acad\u00e9mie pour les jeunes enfants, dont certains deviendront moines.<\/p><p>Que devons-nous faire, <strong>en tant qu\u2019Occidentaux<\/strong> ? Je ne connais pas les r\u00e9ponses, mais je sais simplement que le monachisme est essentiel. En tant que la\u00efcs, nous soutenons les nonnes de Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9 au N\u00e9pal et, bien s\u00fbr, il en va de m\u00eame pour les moines du KIBI et ceux de Sa Saintet\u00e9 Sakya Trizin.<\/p><p>Les meilleurs esprits doivent se pencher sur cette question, car transformer des moines et des nonnes en gardiens d\u2019un parc d\u2019attractions pour obtenir des rentr\u00e9es d\u2019argent, je ne pense pas que cela fonctionnera. Cela les corrompra, car il faut maintenir une certaine distance entre les la\u00efcs et les moines.<\/p><p>Tr\u00e8s souvent en Occident, lorsqu\u2019il y a eu, dans un centre, quelques moines entour\u00e9s de la\u00efcs, la situation s\u2019est d\u00e9t\u00e9rior\u00e9e, car il n\u2019y avait pas assez de respect ni de distance vis-\u00e0-vis des moines.<\/p><p>Nous avons donc besoin de grandes institutions dot\u00e9es d\u2019une solide assise \u00e9conomique pour faire vivre le monachisme. Je pense que le d\u00e9veloppement du monachisme sera plus lent en Occident, mais nous, les la\u00efcs engag\u00e9s dans les traditions kagyu, sakya et autres, ne devons jamais oublier que nous \u0153uvrons dans ce sens. C\u2019est une <strong>question tr\u00e8s complexe<\/strong>.<\/p><p>Et tant qu\u2019il reste encore parmi nous de v\u00e9ritables lamas qui sont moines, comme Karma Thinlay Rinpoch\u00e9, qui approche des quatre-vingt-quinze ans, et lama Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9, c\u2019est une autre fa\u00e7on de nous rappeler le caract\u00e8re central de la voie monastique. Un bouddhisme la\u00efc ne fonctionnera pas.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Un autre aspect int\u00e9ressant de votre travail r\u00e9side dans vos activit\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9criture, de traduction et d\u2019\u00e9dition.\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Un autre aspect int\u00e9ressant de votre travail r\u00e9side dans vos activit\u00e9s d\u2019\u00e9criture, de traduction et d\u2019\u00e9dition. Quelles sont, selon vous, les priorit\u00e9s \u00e0 venir en mati\u00e8re de traduction de textes ?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>Je ne m\u2019y consacre pas beaucoup moi-m\u00eame en ce moment, mais nous avons des personnes qui s\u2019en chargent. Je pense que la premi\u00e8re chose \u00e0 faire est de traduire les <strong>textes du programme d\u2019\u00e9tudes<\/strong>, tant du mahayana que du vajrayana, ainsi que les <strong>\u0153uvres majeures<\/strong> des grands ma\u00eetres de ces traditions. Beaucoup a d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 accompli.<\/p><p>Les traductions tout comme les textes originaux eux-m\u00eames, en tib\u00e9tain ou en sanskrit, ne sont que des supports d\u2019enseignement. Ce <strong>sont des outils sur lesquels on travaille apr\u00e8s l\u2019enseignement<\/strong>. Je ne consid\u00e8re donc pas comme une bonne chose de publier juste pour publier, en mettant sur le march\u00e9 de plus en plus de livres tantriques \u00ab sensationnels \u00bb. En fait, je trouve cela plut\u00f4t n\u00e9faste pour le Dharma.<\/p><p>Je pense que le r\u00f4le des traducteurs est plut\u00f4t modeste : il s\u2019agit d\u2019un support \u00e0 l\u2019enseignement. Bien s\u00fbr, il faut des livres esth\u00e9tiques et durables, et c\u2019est pourquoi je me r\u00e9jouis vivement de l\u2019existence d\u2019\u00e9diteurs comme les \u00c9ditions Rabsel qui soutiennent le Dharma de mani\u00e8re pure, sans aucun compromis.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous venez \u00e0 Dhagpo depuis 2010 \u00e0 l\u2019invitation de lama Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9. Comment percevez-vous son \u00e9volution au fil des ann\u00e9es ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous venez \u00e0 Dhagpo depuis 2010 \u00e0 l\u2019invitation de lama Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9. Comment percevez-vous son \u00e9volution au fil des ann\u00e9es ?<br><\/span><\/em><\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><img class=\"wp-image-343786  alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/2026-07-25_LJT_FB@DKLmedia-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"493\">L\u2019enrichissement du programme d\u2019\u00e9tudes visant \u00e0 <strong>soutenir la pratique des participants<\/strong> a fait l\u2019objet d\u2019une r\u00e9flexion approfondie de la part de Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa, de Shamar Rinpoch\u00e9 et de Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9. <em>Khenpo<\/em> Ch\u00f6drak Rinpoch\u00e9 joue un r\u00f4le tr\u00e8s important, et Trinlay Rinpoch\u00e9 et moi-m\u00eame jouons \u00e9galement un r\u00f4le.<\/p><p>J\u2019en suis vraiment heureux car <strong>Dhagpo est la maison-m\u00e8re de la lign\u00e9e karma kagyu en Occident.<\/strong> C\u2019est le si\u00e8ge de Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa. Il est donc essentiel que le Dharma s\u2019\u00e9panouisse ici.<\/p><p>C\u2019est d\u2019ici qu\u2019il rayonnera.<\/p><p>Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 est le secr\u00e9taire g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa, ce qui lui conf\u00e8re en quelque sorte un <strong>r\u00f4le de gardien de la lign\u00e9e karma kagyu<\/strong>. J\u2019insiste toujours, lorsque je me rends dans d\u2019autres centres en Europe, et m\u00eame aux \u00c9tats-Unis, pour que chacun se tourne vers Dhagpo, car c\u2019est le centre du Karmapa.<\/p><p>En mati\u00e8re d\u2019authenticit\u00e9 et de formation, c\u2019est la source principale \u00e0 laquelle puiser. Je consid\u00e8re que participer \u00e0 cela est un tr\u00e8s grand service rendu \u00e0 la tradition et \u00e0 Sa Saintet\u00e9, et j\u2019en suis tr\u00e8s heureux.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Vous voyez donc le Dharma s\u2019ancrer davantage, avec un accent plus marqu\u00e9 sur la combinaison de l\u2019\u00e9tude et de la pratique ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Vous voyez donc le Dharma s\u2019ancrer davantage, avec un accent plus marqu\u00e9 sur la combinaison de l\u2019\u00e9tude et de la pratique ?<br><\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p>Tout se d\u00e9roule comme il se doit. Et bien s\u00fbr, dans l\u2019esprit de nos ma\u00eetres, il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019urgence. Dans l\u2019esprit de Sa Saintet\u00e9 Karmapa, qui est extraordinairement vaste, on peut voir que les choses se d\u00e9roulent comme il se doit. L\u2019\u00e9quilibre est plut\u00f4t bon. On peut le constater chez les gens eux-m\u00eames, et dans leur fa\u00e7on d\u2019aborder le Dharma. Le Dharma commence \u00e0 para\u00eetre naturel, comme s\u2019il faisait partie du rythme des choses. Il y aura peut-\u00eatre des hauts et des bas, mais il ne dispara\u00eetra pas. Je pense que cette stabilit\u00e9 est d'une tr\u00e8s grande importance. En fait, il semble que le tournant d\u00e9cisif dans la vie d\u2019une personne par rapport au Dharma survienne toujours lorsqu\u2019elle est stable. Avant, cela peut \u00eatre passionnant, et des \u00e9v\u00e9nements marquants, puissants, peuvent se produire. Mais quand c\u2019est stable, on se dit : \u00ab Oui, bien s\u00fbr, je me l\u00e8ve tous les matins et je pratique. \u00bb Et on peut observer cette stabilit\u00e9 lors de grands \u00e9v\u00e9nements, lorsque tout le monde se rassemble autour de quelqu\u2019un comme le Karmapa.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Y a-t-il quelque chose que vous aimeriez ajouter ?\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<em><span style=\"color: #ab0032;\">Y a-t-il quelque chose que vous aimeriez ajouter ?<\/span><\/em>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"R\u00e9ponse\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><p><img class=\"wp-image-343826  alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/2026-07-25_LJT_FB@DKLmedia-04.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"612\" height=\"408\">Il est tr\u00e8s important pour Dhagpo et pour la lign\u00e9e kagyu que Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 reste parmi nous encore tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s longtemps. C\u2019est \u00e9galement important pour Sa Saintet\u00e9, bien s\u00fbr, mais Jigm\u00e9 Rinpoch\u00e9 est lui-m\u00eame tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s important. Personne ne doit perdre cela de vue. Et personne ne doit oublier qu\u2019il est l\u2019autorit\u00e9. Tout doit \u00eatre soumis \u00e0 Rinpoch\u00e9. Nous ne devons pas laisser Rinpoch\u00e9 n\u00e9gliger sa sant\u00e9. C\u2019est tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s important.<\/p><p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text admin_label=\"Notes\" _builder_version=\"4.27.6\" _module_preset=\"default\" background_color=\"RGBA(255,255,255,0)\" global_colors_info=\"{}\"]<\/p><h5>[1] Karma Thinley Rinpoch\u00e9. <em>Dispelling the Darkness of Sufferin<\/em>g. Rabsel Publications, La Remu\u00e9e, France, 2023. (pas traduit en fran\u00e7ais)<\/h5><p>\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>Livres en fran\u00e7ais de Lama Jampa Thay\u00e9 aux \u00c9ditions Rabsel :<\/strong><\/p><ul><li><em>Un ciel adamantin. Se pr\u00e9parer au Vajrayana<\/em>. 2023.<\/li><li><em>Des arabesques dans la vacuit\u00e9.<\/em> <em>Comprendre la manifestation en d\u00e9pendance dans le bouddhisme<\/em>. 2019.<\/li><li><em>Sagesse en exil. Bouddhisme et Temps modernes<\/em>. 2017.<\/li><li><em>Ond\u00e9e de Clart\u00e9. Les \u00e9tapes de la voie dans la tradition Sakya<\/em>. 2015<\/li><\/ul><p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>","_et_gb_content_width":"","ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[100],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-343834","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-dkl","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Lama Jampa Thaye: \u201cTeaching with an Intelligent Fidelity to Tradition\u201d - Dhagpo Kagyu Ling<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/dhagpo.org\/lama-jampa-thaye-enseigner-dans-respect-intelligent-tradition\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Lama Jampa Thaye: \u201cTeaching with an Intelligent Fidelity to Tradition\u201d - 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